Temporal Founders Bet on Open Source and Developers to Enable Invincible Applications
Aug 15, 2024
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Samar Abbas and Maxim Fateev, co-founders of Temporal, discuss their journey from tech giants like AWS and Microsoft to launching an open-source microservices platform. They delve into the challenges of balancing open-source goals with commercial success, emphasizing the importance of developer engagement. The duo shares insights on navigating AI advancements and the dynamics of building a startup team, including the transition of leadership roles and onboarding independent board members. It's a treasure trove for aspiring founders!
Temporal's unique durable execution feature enhances reliability for developers by allowing applications to resume precisely from failure points.
The co-founders successfully navigated leadership transitions and board member introductions, leveraging their long-term partnership to ensure effective company growth.
Deep dives
The Founding Story of Temporal
Temporal was founded in 2019 by two co-founders who shared a decade-long partnership in building platforms for developers. The motivation behind starting Temporal was the increasing need for an open-source microservices orchestration engine that could cater to real-world developer challenges. They recognized that many of the previous iterations of orchestration engines, including their experience with Amazon's Simple Workflow Service, lacked a strong developer experience and scalability. As they built Temporal, they aimed to eliminate these shortcomings by creating a platform designed to handle complex workflows reliably and efficiently.
Durable Execution and Developer Experience
Temporal offers a unique feature known as durable execution, which allows applications to resume from the exact point of failure, mitigating issues commonly faced during transaction processing. This guarantees that processes such as money transfers can be completed without resulting in inconsistent states, thereby enhancing reliability for developers. The platform supports SDKs in multiple programming languages, facilitating a smooth transition for developers familiar with those languages, which ultimately improves the developer experience. As a result, numerous high-profile applications, including those from Snapchat and Airbnb, rely on Temporal for their operational backbone.
Balancing Open Source and Commercial Success
Temporal maintains a fully featured open-source version under the MIT license while monetizing through a backend component via the cloud. This model ensures a commitment to the open-source community while allowing for sustainable revenue generation. The co-founders emphasize the importance of maintaining compatibility between the open-source project and their cloud service to ensure a seamless experience for users. This strategic approach is seen as a way to build trust within the developer community while also positioning Temporal for growth in the competitive landscape of open-source companies.
Navigating Organizational Growth and Leadership Changes
As Temporal grew from two founders to over 200 employees, it became apparent that the skills required for effective leadership had evolved, prompting a natural transition in roles among the co-founders. One founder stepped into the role of CEO, focusing on operational management, while the other took on the role of CTO, prioritizing product strategy and technological innovation. This transition was made smoother by the deep trust and respect built over their long-standing partnership, reflecting their shared vision for the company. The decision to introduce an independent board member was also a significant milestone, aimed at leveraging external expertise to navigate the next phase of the company's challenges.
Madrona Managing Director Soma Somasegar hosts Temporal Co-Founders Samar Abbas and Maxim Fateev in studio. Temporal was founded in 2019 based on an open-source microservices orchestration engine project but is the result of a more than decade-long partnership between the two co-founders that spanned their time working on different iterations of the same thing at AWS, Microsoft, and Uber.
In this episode, Soma, Samar, and Maxim dive into the challenges of building an open-source ecosystem while also working on a commercial offering and scaling a successful company, how to navigate and adjust a product roadmap in an ever-changing world of AI and large language models, and how to successfully build an early startup team, navigate through a CEO transition, and bring on a startup's first independent board member. It's a very compelling conversation and a must-listen for every builder out there.
Full transcript available here:
(00:00) Introduction(01:55) What is Temporal?(04:30) Temporal's Unique Advantages(07:37) Building a Commercial Entity from Open Source(11:15) Balancing Open Source and Commercial Goals(14:51) Temporal's Annual Developer Conference: Replay(16:41) Impact of AI on Temporal's Roadmap(22:35) Choosing the Right Co-Founder(25:56) Seamless CEO Transition(31:27) Bringing on an Independent Board Director
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