Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast Episode 358 - The Armenian Genocide: Part 2
Delving into political turmoil, the discussion reveals the complex relationships within the declining Ottoman Empire, especially among the Young Turks and Armenians. A gripping exploration of identity and resistance highlights the brutal realities faced by Armenians, blending dark comedy with absurd tales of historical resistance. Insightful reflections on failed attempts at peace and the legacy of oppression weave through narratives of personal struggle and broader geopolitical tensions, all while mixing humor with poignant historical lessons.
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Young Turks: Diverse but Divisive
- The Young Turk movement was a diverse coalition united by a wish for reform and survival of the Ottoman Empire.
- Despite the inclusive name, it included militant Turkish nationalists who later dominated its path.
Ottomanism vs Forced Assimilation
- The Young Turks aimed for an Ottoman identity erasing ethnic differences.
- This forced assimilation laid foundations for ethnonationalism and suppression of minorities.
Armenian Fidai Guerrilla Escape
- Armenian self-defense groups called Fidai fought Ottoman paramilitaries at Arkelats Monastery in 1901.
- After running out of ammo, they escaped disguised in Ottoman uniforms undetected.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Political Turmoil and Alliances in the Ottoman Empire
02:07 • 9min
Identity and Struggle: Armenians Under Ottoman Rule
10:44 • 19min
A Comedic Take on Armenian Resistance and Absurd Ninjas
30:05 • 2min
Turmoil and Tragedy in the Ottoman Empire
31:45 • 18min
The Dark Legacy of Military Occupation
49:30 • 1min
Chaos and Control: The Ottoman Empire's Dark Politics
50:46 • 28min
Diplomacy and Deception: The Armenian Genocide Era
01:19:00 • 6min
Exploring Historical Context and Pop Culture Reflections
01:24:59 • 3min
The burning Tigris
The burning Tigris
The Armenian Genocide
Peter Balakian
Peter Balakian's "The Burning Tigris" is a powerful and deeply researched account of the Armenian Genocide.
It combines historical analysis with personal narratives, offering a moving portrayal of the suffering endured by Armenians during this horrific event.
The book explores the systematic nature of the genocide, the motivations behind it, and the lasting impact on Armenian communities.
Balakian's work is considered a seminal text on the subject, providing crucial insights into this often-overlooked tragedy.
It serves as a testament to the resilience of the Armenian people and a call for remembrance and justice.
The Laws of the Spirit World
Khorshed Bhavnagri
The book explores the concept of seven realms in the spirit world, ranging from what is akin to hell (realms 1-3) to heaven (realms 5-7).
It discusses topics such as karma, rebirth, free will, and the nature of good and evil.
The author, inspired by messages from her sons who died in a car accident, uses automatic writing to convey the spiritual laws and guide readers on how to lead a spiritual life on Earth and progress towards higher realms after death.
They Can Live in the Desert and Nowhere Else
They Can Live in the Desert and Nowhere Else
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Ronald Grigor Suny
Ronald Grigor Suny's "They Can Live in the Desert and Nowhere Else" delves into the historical context of the Armenian Genocide, exploring the political, social, and economic factors that contributed to the tragedy.
The book examines the Ottoman Empire's internal dynamics and the role of nationalism in shaping the events.
Suny meticulously analyzes the policies and actions of the Ottoman government, shedding light on the systematic nature of the genocide.
He also explores the experiences of Armenian survivors and their struggles in the aftermath.
The book offers a comprehensive and nuanced understanding of this dark chapter in history.
Killing Orders
Talat Pasha's Telegrams and the Armenian Genocide
Taner Akçam
Taner Akçam's "Killing Orders" presents a meticulous examination of the telegrams sent by Talat Pasha, a key figure in the Ottoman government during the Armenian Genocide.
These telegrams provide irrefutable evidence of the systematic nature of the killings and the deliberate intent to exterminate the Armenian population.
Akçam's analysis sheds light on the organizational structure of the genocide and the roles played by various officials.
The book challenges denialist claims and offers a compelling narrative based on primary source materials.
It is a crucial contribution to the historical record and the ongoing efforts to achieve justice for the victims.
Genocide and Humanitarian Resistance in Ottoman Syria, 1915-1916
Genocide and Humanitarian Resistance in Ottoman Syria, 1915-1916
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Khatchig Mouradian
Khatchig Mouradian's "Genocide and Humanitarian Resistance in Ottoman Syria" focuses on the experiences of Armenians in Syria during the genocide.
The book examines the systematic persecution and extermination of Armenians in this region, highlighting the brutality of the Ottoman regime and the resilience of the Armenian people.
Mouradian explores the various forms of resistance, both armed and non-violent, that Armenians employed to survive and preserve their cultural identity.
He also analyzes the role of international organizations and individuals who attempted to provide humanitarian aid and alleviate the suffering of the Armenian population.
The book offers a crucial perspective on the regional dimensions of the genocide.
The History of Armenia: From the Origins to the Present
The History of Armenia: From the Origins to the Present
From the Origins to the Present
Simon Payaslian
Simon Payaslian's "The History of Armenia" offers a comprehensive overview of Armenian history, tracing its development from ancient times to the present day.
The book explores the various periods of Armenian history, including the formation of the Armenian kingdom, the adoption of Christianity, the periods of foreign rule, and the struggles for independence.
Payaslian examines the cultural, political, and social aspects of Armenian history, highlighting the resilience and contributions of the Armenian people.
He also discusses the Armenian Genocide and its lasting impact on the Armenian nation.
The book provides a valuable resource for understanding the rich and complex history of Armenia.
German responsibility in the Armenian genocide
A Review of the Historical Evidence of German Complicity
Vahakn N. Dadrian
Vahakn Dadrian's "German Responsibility in the Armenian Genocide" meticulously examines the role of Germany in the events.
The book presents a detailed analysis of the historical evidence demonstrating German complicity in the genocide.
Dadrian explores the close military and political ties between Germany and the Ottoman Empire, highlighting how German advisors and officials contributed to the planning and execution of the genocide.
He also examines the German government's knowledge of the atrocities and its failure to intervene.
The book provides a crucial perspective on the international dimensions of the genocide and the responsibility of outside powers.
A Shameful Act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility
A Shameful Act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility
The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility
Taner Akçam
Taner Akçam's "A Shameful Act" directly addresses the question of Turkish responsibility in the Armenian Genocide.
The book presents a compelling case for acknowledging Turkey's role in the events, drawing on extensive historical evidence and challenging attempts to minimize or deny the genocide.
Akçam meticulously examines the actions of the Ottoman government and its officials, demonstrating the systematic nature of the killings and the deliberate intent to exterminate the Armenian population.
He also explores the ongoing debate surrounding the genocide and the importance of historical accuracy and justice.
The book is a powerful contribution to the ongoing struggle for recognition and reconciliation.
The Young Turks' crime against humanity
Taner Akçam
This groundbreaking work analyzes the systematic destruction of Armenians during World War I through Ottoman military tribunal records and government documents.
Akçam demonstrates how the Committee of Union and Progress implemented a policy of ethnic cleansing, arguing these actions meet the legal definition of genocide.
The book includes critical evidence such as Talat Pasha's 1915 telegram declaring the 'resolution' of the Armenian issue.
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Sources:
Ronald Grigor Suny. They Can Live in the Desert and Nowhere Else.
Peter Bakalian. Burning Tigris: The Armenian Genocide and America's Response
Taner Akçam. Killing Orders: Talat Pasha's Telegrams and the Armenian Genocide
Taner Akçam. The Spirit of the Laws: The Plunder of Wealth in the Armenian Genocide
Taner Akçam. A Shameful Act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility
Taner Akçam. The Young Turks' Crime Against Humanity: The Armenian Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing in the Ottoman Empire
Vakahn Dadrian. German Responsibility in the Armenian Genocide: A Review of the Historical Evidence of German Complicity.
Khatchig Mouradian. Genocide and Humanitarian Resistance in Ottoman Syria, 1915-1916
Simon Payaslian. The History of Armenia: From the Origins to the Present.