I sit down with Zen Master Henry Shukman and his nephew Jack Shukman to discuss the creation of The Way—a meditation app designed to guide users on a single path of practice toward awakening. We also reflect on the spiritual journey itself: the tension between longing and arrival, the beauty of staying with one path or teacher, and the intersection of business, integrity, and awakening in a modern world. As someone who’s been practicing with the app for months, this conversation was so fun!

Takeaways: 

• Why removing choice might deepen your meditation practice

• How spiritual experiences can shake your life—and what helps integrate them

• The behind-the-scenes decisions that shaped The Way app’s structure

• Why the “next big spiritual moment” might not be what you actually need

• The quiet power of lineage in a modern world.

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Website: https://henryshukman.com/

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