Vanessa Andreotti author of Hospicing Modernity, dean of the faculty of education at University of Victoria and member of the DCF collective came and spoke about what it takes to begin making space for something that isn't modernity. We speak of the importance of humor and humility, staying open to both the good and the sh*t, coming into contact with what modernity is actually doing to us and what it means to be tethered. What happens when there is no away? We speak of form and motion. We speak why fighting or fixing are traps. We speak of the fact that colonialism, the world most of live in, feels good. This is a human, humorous wonderful conversation for those serious about being in service to the different world may also inhabit. Link to facing human wrongs course. Host: Amit Paul