

World of Wisdom
World of Wisdom
A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/
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Oct 5, 2025 • 1h 16min
275. Parul Punjabi Jagdish - imagination, living knowledge and death
Parul Punjabi Jagdish (LinkedIn) steward of AIME came by the podcast. We spoke of the importance of the process of familiarising ourselves with who we are, the role and function of imagination. Why death is so central to life and how inviting it into our individual lives as well as our organisations is an invitation to radically shift away from where we are currently headed. We spoke of living cultures and living knowledge, the concept of retrieving forward and how what we are consist only of relationship. We also spoke about Imagine The Film and how it follows from a completely different pattern of creation - a sacred, co-created one. This conversation is a beautiful one. Enjoy!

Sep 25, 2025 • 1h 51min
274. WoW Roundtable - Regenerative Business. Ownership vs stewarding, competition and collaboration, agency and structure
Graham Boyd (LI, EP98), Tanuja Prasad (LI, EP234) Michaela Emch (LI) joined me for a conversation on regenerative business and reimagining paradigms of investing and leadership. This is deep conversation with tangible tips for leaders looking to fund and found regenerative businesses. We speak of complementary pairs of competition and collaboration, agency and structure. We speak of responsibility as a consequence of alignment and how important context is, as well as how we can deal with path dependency. This is a wonderful deep dive into the cutting edge of Regenerative Business. Enjoy!

Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 10min
273. Bruno Petrušić - Theology, economy and systems transformation
Bruno Petrušić (LinkedIn, X) who is a theologian and part of the Economy of Francesco. We spoke about the big questions in life, theology's place in the societal transformation. Finding new ways. We spoke of what it's like to drive change within an institution like the catholic church. We addressed what the church also is and how it may help in finding new ways. We also spoke about different ways of relating to the world and what happens when care and the relational becomes a central value. And why that belongs in the economy and business particularly. This is a wonderful conversation. Enjoy!

Aug 28, 2025 • 32min
Special episode - Waves Gathering: Another way?
Sara Lindeman, Thomas Holm and Amit Paul speak about the upcoming Waves Gathering in Finland, focusing on creating a unique space for exploring new worldviews and approaches to change. The gathering is an invitation for navigating destabilization without despair, integrating various forms of knowledge, and fostering collaboration and emotional intelligence. This is an invitation for embodied epistemic humility aka wisdom and the significance of meeting the situation rather than merely intellectualizing it. Tickets still available!

Aug 10, 2025 • 1h 23min
272. Adriana Forte - The masculine and feminine dance, creation and what happens when we step back into rhythm
This episode deep dives into the masculine and feminine, energetically, hormonally and culturally. Adriana Forte (LinkedIn, C-lab Substack) brings depth and philosophical rigour as well as the latin perspective to Amits Icelandic, masculine Nordic one. We speak of what a dance between the masculine and feminine may lead to, we speak of hormonal rhythms and torrents. We speak of just how much of women is left discarded in modernity. We speak of grief and the potential that may be unlocked when men stay and women step out. This conversation is potentially transformational. It is excellent an it is pointing at one of the core problems of our

Jul 26, 2025 • 1h 2min
271. Karl Sjöblom - Standardised innovation and business transformation
Karl Sjöblom (LinkedIn) is an entrepreneur, an expert in the new ISO 56001/2 and founder of Eicorn. We spoke of innovation, business transformation. Key takeaways from the conversation was the 8 boxes we need to work with to reliably innovate: leadership, vision, inclusiveness, timeline, skills, resources, commitment and communication. If we strategically address these the likelihood of success in any innovation project increase. We speak of where companies usually fail and why it is not in the doing but in the stopping the real gold lies. Other links: ISIP and Innovationsledarna. Enjoy!

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 50min
270. Melanie Rieback - a journey of radical transformation
Melanie Rieback (LinkedIn) founder of Radically Open Security and well known ambassador of steward ownership is a guest on this episode on the podcast. This is a different episode in kind. It is a story of transformation. We journey into a lifetime, touch on composting identities, it is a story of deep commitment to service, of courage, of listening and of following ones calling. The type of story we need more of. This episode is different, it is one where Amit Paul offers space for a journey of radical transformation. Enjoy.

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 8min
269. Adrian Wagner - Complexity, micro-empathic moments and the right level of granularity
Adrian Wagner involved with both Complexity partners and the Pocket Project. We go deeply and concretely into the ins and outs of navigating complexity. We speak of the importance and power of micro-empathic moments. We also speak alot at the right level of granularity. How activism could be be reframed as finding a point where 'they' cannot hate 'us' anymore because we're involved with mutual local action. We speak about how precision is love and inquire into what would happen if we took god just a little more seriously than ourselves. This is a gem of a conversation. Enjoy! And here is the link to the release of the book (30th june2025)

Jun 14, 2025 • 53min
268. Solo Episode - sensation not survival, a crisis of intimacy and submission
This time Amit Paul speaks into some insights that he has found during spring. He speak of retiring survival in order to be able to fully live. Amit speaks of the sensous and that the posture of attuning to the moment is a more constructive attitude. One that sparks agency and action. He explore the crisis of meaning and propose that it’s a crisis of intimacy and Amit Paul explore the distinction between surrender and submission. All of this is an invitation to a new posture towards transformative work one in which attention is your instrument, submission is your stance and the only thing that may look like a goal is becoming intimate with reality. Links: Waves Gathering, website, innrwrks.

Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 18min
267. Gustaf Tadaa - Everything is made up, semantics, AI and destructive compression algorithms
Gustaf Tadaa is a thinker, speaker, artist, and entrepreneur who recently launched an experiential museum in Stockholm. He discusses how everything is made up, the significance of semantics in education, and the creative nature of trauma therapy. Gustaf emphasizes the role of storytelling in shaping our world and critiques how societal narratives can lead to conflict. The conversation also touches on AI's impact on communication and calls for a reevaluation of societal values. It's a thought-provoking dialogue that challenges listeners to reflect on identity and perception.