The wonderful Kath Ebbs is back on the KICPOD chatting all things travel and why it can actually be hard for some people, social media and the validation we tend to seek from it, acknowledging your own potential and your own achievements, and so much more.

Steph & Laura also check in to see how Kath is doing since their last episode together, and ask about the things we can do to help manage our mental health.

SPECIAL SHARES:

Steph - Sunshine on a rainy day, song by Christine Anu

Laura - 'Scandal' podcast by Shameless, with Anne Hathaway

KIC UPDATES:

We've just launched Dance Cardio with Kath Ebbs on the KIC app! Get ready to move, groove and boost your mood with this brand new workout style. 12 new workouts ranging from 10, 15, 20 and 30 minutes that fit in with your day, shake off your stress and celebrate your body! Also head to our TikTok @keepitcleanersquad to join our dance challenge for your chance to win a pair of Apple Airpods Max!

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Being more than your potential, with Kath Ebbs