#290 - CIA “Criminal” Spy: How I Infiltrated Most RUTHLESS Cartel | Matthew Hedger & Shawnee Delaney

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Apr 4, 2025

Matthew Hedger, a former CIA NOC spy, and Shawnee Delaney, an ex-DIA officer, delve into the high-stakes world of espionage. Hedger shares gripping tales of infiltrating Mexican cartels and managing a double life while laundering money. The duo discusses the ethical dilemmas spies face and the psychological toll of maintaining cover. They explore covert communication methods and the rise of AI-driven threats, highlighting how technology can both aid and undermine security efforts in today's landscape.

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ANECDOTE

Dark Web Leak

Matthew Hedger's identity was leaked on the dark web due to an insider threat who divulged information to a hostile country.
This leak exposed Hedger and others, making travel risky due to biometric flags at airports.

INSIGHT

NOC Spy Risks

NOC spies, like Matthew Hedger, operate without official cover, making them deniable assets.
If caught, their government can disavow any connection, leaving them vulnerable.

ADVICE

Leveraging Criminal Organizations

Criminal organizations can be used for national security purposes, like acquiring restricted technology.
Their existence allows for covert operations under the guise of criminal activity.

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