The High Flyers Podcast with Vidit Agarwal

#239 Tim Doyle & Alex Badran debate data vs judgement, building companies without paralysis, dreamers vs leavers and more

Jan 6, 2026
In this engaging discussion, Tim Doyle, CEO of Eucalyptus, and Alex Badran, CEO of Spriggy, tackle the crucial balance of data and judgment in decision-making. They explore how speed can be a game-changer, emphasizing that founders should avoid paralysis by analysis. The duo also critiques generic performance marketing, advocating for creativity instead. Their insights extend to hiring strategies, the importance of behavioral validation over traditional research, and a thought-provoking framework categorizing founders into dreamers, leavers, and settlers.
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ANECDOTE

Friendship Born From A Pitch Deck

  • Alex met Tim after discovering his pitch deck and they bonded over marketing frameworks and system thinking.
  • That meeting sparked a friendship grounded in shared frameworks and practical marketing approaches.
ANECDOTE

Childhood Hacker Wins Prizes

  • Tim built a program at 12 to automate contest entries and started winning prizes like cricket bats and go-karts.
  • He crashed a vendor's server and got in trouble, illustrating early tinkering and system thinking.
INSIGHT

Data Is A Tool, Not A Crutch

  • Tim: Data is a tool that should inform decisions but not be an excuse to avoid deciding.
  • Context matters more than raw numbers; misapplied data can be dangerous.
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