

S4E36: Bonnie Grossen and Kurt Engelmann on Full Immersion Direct Instruction
Jul 21, 2025
Join Kurt Engelmann, a key advocate at NIFTI, and Bonnie Grossen, a retired educator and co-developer of the higher-level language programs, as they delve into the transformative power of Full Immersion Direct Instruction. They discuss how structured learning environments boost student performance, especially in high-poverty areas. The conversation highlights the importance of flexible grouping, on-site coaching, and the pivotal role school leaders play in overcoming challenges. Personal anecdotes reveal how tailored approaches can significantly enhance student engagement and success.
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Sequence Core Programs Intentionally
- Start DI with reading and language first, then add math and spelling in year two to avoid overwhelming teachers.
- Use early reading gains to accelerate math comprehension and overall achievement.
Cohort Effect Drives Multi‑Year Gains
- Cohort effects produce rising scores as cohorts exposed to early DI progress through grades.
- True transformation can take several years as early-grade prevention compounds upward.
San Francisco High Schools' Rise And Fall
- Bonnie described San Francisco high schools that raised ELL and disadvantaged proficiency dramatically after four years of DI.
- When DI was removed by new leadership the scores regressed, showing the program produced the gains.