
 The Lawfare Podcast
 The Lawfare Podcast Lawfare Archive: Ben Buchanan on 'The Hacker and the State'
 Jun 10, 2023 
 Ben Buchanan, cybersecurity and statecraft scholar, discusses his book 'The Hacker and the State' and topics such as name-and-shame indictments, motives behind state-sponsored cyber operations, home field advantage in cyberspace, the mystery of the Shadow Brokers, the effectiveness of indictments in deterring hacking, Russian interference in elections, exposure as a harm in geopolitical hacking, trends in geopolitical hacking, and the need for red lines to deter cyber attacks. 
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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 3min 
 The Real Threat in Cyberspace: Daily Competition Between Nations 
 02:50 • 2min 
 Home Field Advantage in Cyberspace 
 05:12 • 16min 
 The Mystery of the Shadow Brokers and the Consequences of a Major Security Breach 
 20:48 • 4min 
 The Effectiveness of Indictments in Deterring Hacking 
 25:13 • 9min 
 Interference and Elections: Russia's Involvement and Future Actions 
 34:42 • 3min 
 Exposure as a Harm in Geopolitical Hacking 
 38:02 • 6min 
 Trends in Geopolitical Hacking and the Need for Red Lines 
 44:09 • 3min 

