The Programming Podcast

The World's Most Popular Teacher Reveals The Secret to Learning ANYTHING.

Oct 10, 2025
Dr. Barbara Oakley, a Distinguished Professor of Engineering and co-creator of the massively popular online course 'Learning How to Learn,' shares her transformative journey from struggling with math to becoming a leading expert in the neuroscience of learning. She reveals common myths about studying, emphasizing practical techniques like retrieval practice, the power of breaks, and the importance of tailored routines. Oakley highlights how to tackle procrastination and discusses the evolving role of AI in education, stressing the need for balance in learning strategies.
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ANECDOTE

From Hating Math To Professor

  • Barbara Oakley once told the dean she would never learn mathematics and read books instead of classwork.
  • She later became a distinguished engineering professor who loves math and science.
ANECDOTE

Language Learning Rewired Her Brain

  • Oakley learned Russian in the army and used the language-learning process to retrain herself for math and engineering.
  • She climbed from remedial algebra to advanced engineering using small steps and language-learning techniques.
ADVICE

Practice Retrieval Then Let It Percolate

  • Use retrieval practice: actively pull information to mind rather than passively rereading.
  • Combine focused Pomodoro blocks with brief retrieval then a short break to let diffuse mode consolidate learning.
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