Why Other People Do Wrong – Socrates Was Right! (Episode 163)
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Dec 24, 2024
Explore the intriguing idea that no one chooses to do wrong, rooted in Stoic philosophy and Socratic thought. Delve into how human behavior reflects a pursuit of what is perceived as best, even when choices appear misguided. The discussion addresses the complexities of addiction, highlighting the clash of beliefs that can lead to destructive actions. Reflect on how these insights can foster compassion and promote personal growth, ultimately guiding listeners towards a more virtuous and ethical life.
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Socratic Intellectualism
Socrates believed people only desire what they think is good, denying weakness of will.
Weakness of will is when you choose an action you believe isn't best.
insights INSIGHT
Weakness of Will
Stoics believe we act on our perceived best choice, but later realize we acted poorly.
We might have competing beliefs, and the strongest one wins in the moment.
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Medea's Mistake
Epictetus uses Medea's decision to kill her children as an example.
Medea, blinded by passion, believed her vengeance was more important, demonstrating tragic ignorance.
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Meditations is a series of private writings composed by Marcus Aurelius, one of Rome's greatest emperors, as he struggled to understand himself and make sense of the universe. Written between 170 and 180 CE while on military campaigns, this work combines Stoic philosophy with personal observations on leadership, duty, mortality, and human nature. Through twelve books of intimate thoughts never intended for publication, Marcus Aurelius explores themes of self-improvement, resilience in the face of adversity, and living virtuously while accepting what cannot be changed.
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Epictetus
The Discourses of Epictetus are a series of informal lectures written down by his pupil Arrian around 108 AD. The philosophy of Epictetus is intensely practical, directing students to focus on their opinions, anxieties, passions, and desires to distinguish what is within their control from what is not. The teachings aim to make people free and happy by living virtuously and 'according to nature.' The Discourses cover a wide range of topics, including friendship, illness, fear, and poverty, and how to acquire and maintain tranquility. They are set in Epictetus' classroom in Nicopolis and reflect his earnest and often humorous style of teaching[3][4][5].
No one chooses to be wrong. This core Stoic teaching, inherited from Socrates, shaped how ancient philosophers viewed human behavior and mistakes. In this episode, Caleb explores why the Stoics believed people only do what they think is best – even when those choices seem obviously wrong to others.
The episode tackles challenging questions: How do addictions and bad habits fit into this framework? What does this mean for personal responsibility? And most importantly, how can we use this ancient insight to better understand ourselves and others?
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