

🎙️ The Hilarious & Heartbreaking with Shane & Hannah Burcaw
Today on Scratch That we chat with one of the most beloved couples on the internet – Squirmy and Grubs! (Also known as Shane and Hannah Burcaw🤗) They talk with us about what it's like to share their personal lives with an enormous following, how they cope with internet hate and real life ignorance about disability/relationships, why they wrote their new book Interabled: True Stories of Love and Disability, the perspective they've gained through their experience with IVF, and loads more! There was much giggling. There were sobering truths. There was a story about the time Hannah ate edibles and then thought a real life witch approached them on the street. We're so excited to share this one with you💛
Tune in to hear us talk about:
🤡 Little Shane and Little Hannah as two rule-following class clowns.
🧑🦼The shame Shane had about his disability when he was younger and the coping mechanisms he developed to be seen as fully human.
💞 Why we think so many people struggle to understand how disability, care giving, and romantic relationships can co-exist.
📣 Why Shane and Hannah continue to share their stories publicly, even when their comment sections fill up with ignorance and hate.
🛠 The tools Hannah & Shane have found to protect themselves from ignorance.
⚡ Disability as a disruption to narrow expectations around traditional gender norms and inter-generational living.
🗺The perspective they've gained from their IVF experience.
Mentioned In Today's Episode:
Shane and Hannah's book, Interabled: True Stories of Love and Disability
And their YouTube channel, Squirmy and Grubs
Sara Hendren's book What Can a Body Do?
And here is an interview Sara Hendren did with Krista Tippett on the On Being podcast about an obligation to others as valuable within human society.
The 3 songs Hannah and Shane added to our collective Scratch That Spotify playlist – Fortune Teller by Sea Lemon, Get Better by alt-J, and look up by Joy Oladokum.
As Always:
Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.
Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.
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