Season 4, Episode 1: Aaron Good, American Exception: Empire and the Deep State
Nov 12, 2024
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In this engaging conversation, political scientist Aaron Good reflects on his book, examining the troubling relationship between U.S. foreign policy and American exceptionalism. He discusses how the deep state has shaped major political events and the erosion of democracy. Good critiques the increasing concentration of power among elites and the historical ties of U.S. intelligence to controversial figures. The dialogue raises critical questions about restoring true democratic governance in a world driven by covert interests.
The podcast explores how American exceptionism rationalizes lawbreaking in foreign policy, institutionalizing a culture of impunity in governance.
The discussion reveals a tripartite state framework that highlights the deep state's influence on policymaking, challenging the legitimacy of elected leaders.
Deep dives
Understanding American Exceptionism
American exceptionism is the core concept explored in the discussion, contrasting the familiar notion of American exceptionalism. While the latter suggests that the United States holds a unique role of moral superiority and dominance in the world, exceptionism delves into a more intricate narrative where governmental actions, particularly in foreign policy, often violate established laws and norms. This idea draws on the thoughts of Carl Schmitt, highlighting how a state's declaration of an emergency can lead to despotism, undermining the foundational principles of democracy. The conversation emphasizes that the U.S. employs this framework to rationalize its breaches of both national and international law, fundamentally altering global perceptions of its role as a purported protector of justice and stability.
The Institutionalization of Lawlessness
The episode reveals a troubling reality: the regular practice of lawbreaking in American foreign policy has been normalized and institutionalized. Examples are provided showing how U.S. actions often contravene treaties ratified by the Constitution, such as the UN Charter, which is supposed to be the supreme law of the land. The conversation underscores a systemic issue where U.S. officials rarely acknowledge legal constraints imposed by treaties, framing actions as exceptions rather than violations. This routine disregard for legal boundaries not only shapes foreign engagements but also reflects a broader culture of impunity that can extend to domestic policy as well.
The Dynamics of the Tripartite State
The concept of a tripartite state is introduced as a framework for understanding U.S. governance, illuminating that real power extends beyond the elected officials whose policymakers and the public view as legitimate. This system includes a security state designed for geopolitical domination, alongside a deep state representing interests of wealthy oligarchs. While the security state operates ostensibly in the interests of the citizenry, the deep state manipulates policy for economic benefit that often counters public interest. The insightful dialogue suggests that even elected leaders operate under significant constraints imposed by these overlapping layers of power, fundamentally shaping the trajectory of U.S. foreign relations.
A Shift Towards International Cooperation
The discussion reflects upon potential global shifts away from American imperialism toward a more equitable international order, marking a critical juncture in foreign relations. Historically, figures like Henry Wallace, John F. Kennedy, and Mikhail Gorbachev represented calls for a world grounded in cooperation rather than domination, emphasizing shared goals over conflicts. The dialogue suggests that as U.S. influence wanes, alternatives presented by other nations advocating for adherence to international law and mutual respect may gain traction. Ultimately, the hope expressed is that the end of U.S. unipolarity could pave the way for a more collective and peaceful global approach, addressing pressing humanitarian challenges.
Join Professor Jeffrey Sachs and political scientist Aaron Good as they discuss Good’s book, American Exception: Empire and the Deep State. Good delves into the breakdown of U.S. democracy, focusing on the continuity of American foreign policy, the erosion of the rule of law, and the concentration of wealth and power among the corporate elite
Together, they uncover the hidden forces shaping American governance, including the creation of a national security state after World War II and the rise of a covert empire. The podcast explores how the U.S. deep state, driven by corporate and security interests, has influenced major events like foreign interventions and political assassinations, and examines the future prospects for restoring democracy in America.
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