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How to Talk to People You'd Rather Hate (Loretta J. Ross)

Feb 13, 2025
Loretta J. Ross, an activist and professor known for her work in the human rights movement, discusses the transformative power of 'calling in' over 'calling out.' She shares insights from her decades of experience, emphasizing the importance of empathy and understanding in resolving conflicts. Ross explores the psychological roots of anger, the journey of personal transformation, and the role of kindness in activism. Through her belief in human goodness, she encourages self-forgiveness and optimistic engagement, fostering deeper connections across divides.
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  • Engaging in dialogue rather than confrontation facilitates personal growth and fosters empathy in those who may cause harm.
  • Addressing underlying fears and vulnerabilities is essential for dismantling harmful ideologies and promoting a compassionate society.

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The Power of Calling In

A culture of calling in emphasizes engaging with individuals who may cause harm rather than resorting to calling out or canceling them. This approach prioritizes dialogue and understanding over confrontation, allowing for transformative conversations that can lead to personal and social change. Loretta J. Ross suggests that by addressing the underlying motivations behind harmful behavior, it is possible to build connections that foster empathy and growth. She argues that when people feel valued and appreciated, they are less likely to engage in harmful acts and more likely to reflect on their behavior.

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