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In this episode Steven is joined by CPA, CFE and former IRS Special Agent Robert Nordlander to dive into the word of criminal enforcement around taxes. Robert shares from his years of experience working for the IRS and working with taxpayers since leaving the IRS and provides incredible insight and wisdom into all things taxes. Plenty of people are afraid of the IRS, but for the average tax payer that fear is likely misplaced and Steven and Robert talk about the realities of when taxes can become criminal. Robert spends a lot of time educating taxpayers including having written multiple books.