Listen to Burnes Center Senior Fellow Seth Harris in conversation about podcasting in the labor movement with Judy Ancel, executive producer of the "Heartland Labor Forum;" Max Alvarez, host of "Working People" and Editor-In-Chief of the Real News Network; and Mel Buer, staff reporter at the Real News Network and host of the "Real News Network Podcast."

Seth and guests discuss why they started their podcasts and some of the biggest current issues in the labor movement like union reform, the strengths and weaknesses of American labor law, and the importance of labor leadership.

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Maximillian Alvarez is editor-in-chief at the Real News Network and host of the podcast Working People, available at InTheseTimes.com. He is also the author of The Work of Living: Working People Talk About Their Lives and the Year the World Broke.

Judy Ancel produces the Heartland Labor Forum and coordinates the team of volunteers who do the show. She is a labor educator, recently retired from UMKC, and prides herself on teaching people to question authority, especially at work and stand up for their rights. Judy is also active in Missouri Jobs with Justice and the Cross Border Network.

Mel Buer is a staff labor reporter for The Real News Network and host of the Weekly Real News Network Podcast. Prior to joining TRNN, she worked as a freelance reporter covering Midwest labor struggles, including reporting on the 2021 Kellogg's strike and the 2022 railroad workers struggle. In the past she has reported extensively on Midwest protests and movements during the 2020 uprising and is currently researching and writing a book on radical media for Or Books.

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