

#217 Tackling Perfectionism, Stress, and Gut Health: Jeffrey Su’s Approach to Coaching
Welcome back to another value-packed episode of the Nutrition and Life podcast! Today, Lisa sits down with renowned nutrition, fitness, and business coach Jeffrey Su of First Call Out Fitness for an open-minded discussion on the ever-evolving landscape of health, hormones, gut wellness, and the business of coaching. Whether you're a client, an aspiring coach, or a seasoned professional, this episode is loaded with actionable strategies and mind-shifting perspectives to help fuel your journey.
In this episode, Lisa and Jeffrey dive deep into how to prioritize client interventions, handle perfectionism in high-achievers, recognize the subtle impact of stress on gut health, and demystify hormone lab work. Jeffrey drops wisdom on single-focus coaching, practical supplement recommendations, drawing boundaries as a coach, and fostering a growth mindset—both in business and personal wellness.
So grab your coffee, settle in, and get ready for a conversation packed with empathy, real-life examples, and tangible tips for cultivating long-term health and business success!
Timestamp Overview:
- [00:00] – Introduction and Show Kick-Off
- [00:22] – Keeping an Open Mind as Coach & Client
- [01:38] – How to Prioritize Interventions for Clients
- [04:31] – Helping Perfectionist Clients and Addressing Overwhelm
- [09:38] – The Connection Between Stress & Gut Health
- [12:36] – Mainstream Influence on Diet and Gut Sensitivity
- [12:49] – Supplements for Gut Health (General Recommendations)
- [14:29] – Cold Plunges, Hot/Cold Exposure & Hormonal Stress
- [18:53] – Decoding and Optimizing Lab Work (Not Just Chasing "Normal")
- [23:19] – Striving for “Optimal” vs. “Normal” in Health Outcomes
- [24:06] – Strategies for Maintaining Personal Health Amidst Business Growth
- [26:45] – Simple, Sustainable Strategies for Client Adherence
- [28:12] – Building Habits: Why Small Steps Win
- [30:37] – Emotional Triggers for Unwanted Behaviors & Coaching Insights
- [31:47] – Breaking into the Coaching Business: Passion, Storytelling & Substance
- [33:54] – Fostering Client Relationships & Boundaries as a Coach
- [34:53] – Setting Communication Expectations with Clients
- [37:33] – The Power of Coaching Quality Over Speed
- [38:43] – Jeffrey’s Ideal Clientele and Full-Spectrum Coaching Approach
- [41:06] – Wrapping Up: Growth, Mastery, and Ongoing Evolution
Follow Jeffrey Su & First Call Out Fitness:
- Instagram: @firstcalloutfitness
- Website: First Call Out Fitness
Episode Availability: Listen to this inspiring conversation with Jeffrey Su on all major podcast platforms—Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts—and right here on YouTube.
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Thanks for tuning in! Remember: Growth is a journey, not a destination. Stay open, stay coachable, and keep striving for your best. See you next episode!