French Friday: The Trump Verdict, Flawed Heroes, & Shogun
May 31, 2024
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Political analyst Skye Jethani and legal expert David French discuss the Trump verdict's political implications, the complexities of honoring flawed historical figures, and their favorite tv show, Shogun. They debate whether the guilty verdict will sway Trump's base and how to address the flaws of revered figures, all while exploring cultural values and honor in Shogun.
The guilty verdict for Trump may sway undecided supporters but won't impact his loyal base.
The podcast debates whether to honor complex historical figures or dismiss them due to significant flaws.
Shogun depicts the clash of individualism and collectivism, showcasing cultural dynamics and opposing beliefs.
Deep dives
Character Clash - Protestant vs. Catholic Dynamics
The podcast delves into the bitter rivalry between Protestants and Catholics showcased by the English sailor's Protestant views clashing with Catholic Christian characters. The stark contrasting beliefs illustrate the historical animosity and differing theological perspectives.
Cultural Clashes - Individualism vs. Collectivism
The episode explores the clash of individualism and collectivism through the characters in Shogun. It highlights the English sailor's belief in individual liberty against Mariko's layered community fabric, emphasizing the intricate dynamics of cultural differences.
Exposing Evil through Shame
A deep dive into Mariko's character reveals her submission to the system that exposes its evil underbelly, akin to a redemptive, Christ-like act. Shogun portrays the power of shame and exposure of wrongdoings as a force to dismantle the system.
Manipulating Evil for Good
The series showcases Toronaga's manipulation of the evil intentions of his enemies to achieve greater good, mirroring the redemptive power of God turning evil for ultimate good. It highlights the strategic navigation of malevolent forces for positive outcomes.
Complex Cultural Signaling
The discussion navigates the complexities of cultural signaling and misunderstandings presented in Shogun, illustrated through scenes like the tragic execution due to lack of understanding cultural nuances. It urges wisdom and sensitivity in navigating diverse cultural interactions.
The verdict is in and Donald Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts in the hush money trial. Skye Jethani and David French discuss the political implications of the guilty verdict. While neither believe the verdict will have any impact on Trump’s base, David thinks it could erode support among supporters on the bubble, but Skye remains unconvinced. Then, they discuss how we should address the legacies of historical heroes who left behind complex and sometimes troubling legacies. Is it appropriate to honor and celebrate certain aspects of these figures, or should their significant flaws compel us to dismiss them entirely? Plus, Skye and David talk about their new favorite tv show, Shogun.
0:00 - Theme Song
0:18 - Episode Starts
0:47 - Trump Verdict
7:27 - Who’s Actually Energizing Their Base?
16:22 - Justice Alito and the Flag
23:08 - The Politics of Officials Flying Flags
29:47 - The Complexity of American Historical Figures
41:40 - Facing the Sins of the Fathers Through Maturity
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