In this podcast, Tarun shares his insights on ZK technology, DeFi governance, PoW vs PoS, Bitcoin L2s, and more. He discusses the challenges of marketing ZK tech, the importance of dynamic availability in PoW, and the potential for Bitcoin to adopt new opcodes. Tarun also shares his thoughts on the future of DeFi and the crypto industry as a whole.

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Chapter Markers:

00:00:00 Start

00:01:44 Tarun's background

00:02:04 Uniswap SEC case

00:04:47 Tarun's current focus

00:09:17 ZK tech's appeal

00:14:38 ZK tech applications

00:18:48 Solana fees & networking

00:25:44 State of DeFi governance

00:30:32 PoW vs PoS debate

00:40:31 Token voting & centralization

00:44:55 Token governance issues

00:49:55 PoW as better money

00:57:58 PoS issuance & staking

01:03:40 PoS & rational agents

01:09:11 ETF impact on staking

01:15:59 Tarun on Bitcoin L2 Alpen

01:18:54 Bitcoin ready for L2 tech?

01:21:03 OP_CTV & political will

01:22:46 Ideal Bitcoin L2 tech

01:25:02 Bitcoin Covenants (OP_CAT)

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