80,000 Hours Podcast

#59 – Cass Sunstein on how change happens, and why it's so often abrupt & unpredictable

Jun 17, 2019
Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor and former Obama official, explores the unexpected nature of social change. He argues that even amidst apparent public disinterest, significant shifts can occur quickly, using examples from the Russian Revolution to the #MeToo movement. Sunstein discusses concepts like preference falsification, group polarization, and variable thresholds for action to explain how societal norms evolve. His insights reveal the unpredictable dynamics behind activism and the emergence of new societal beliefs, emphasizing that change is possible, even when it seems unlikely.
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ANECDOTE

Saudi Arabian Wives

  • In Saudi Arabia, wives traditionally only work with their husband's permission.
  • Revealing that most young men approve of working wives increased women's job applications.
INSIGHT

Unpredictable Change

  • Preference falsification, diverse thresholds, and interdependencies make social change unpredictable.
  • People hide true feelings, have different action thresholds, and are influenced by others.
INSIGHT

Social Norms and Suppression

  • Even in free societies, social norms can suppress true opinions, as seen with Nazism and current Syrian situations.
  • People may misrepresent their views due to fear of social consequences.
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