Glenda Eoyang is the founder of the Humans Systems Dynamics Institute (hsdinstitute.org). They have been working on human systems development for several decades teaching courses and developing tools for agency and collective action in the liminal times we are in.

This is a gem of a conversation. Glenda provides some valuable frames from the institutes work on how to manage and navigate in the current times and we speak about difference, paradigm shifts, questions that make a difference, baker folds, non-linear dynamics and stances we can take to be of service to the transformation. Enjoy!

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