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Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied
Shame and Self-respect (Episode 91)
Oct 31, 2023
In this podcast, Caleb and Michael discuss the Stoic perspective on shame and self-respect. They explore the nature and purpose of shame, the relationship between value judgments and emotion, and the concept of conscience in Stoicism. They also delve into different types of shame and how it relates to personal growth. Overall, it's a fascinating exploration of the complexities of shame and its role in living a virtuous life.
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- Shame should be focused on character and self-image, not external circumstances or opinions of others.
- Feeling shame for past actions that cannot be changed is misplaced, while using past experiences as a guide for improvement can be helpful.
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Shame as a Passion and Stoic View
Shame is described as a passion, the fear of disgrace, wanting to hide one's actions from oneself and others. Stoics emphasize that shame should not be placed in external circumstances or opinions of others. Instead, it should be focused on character and self-image. The Stoics believe that feeling shame for not living up to one's potential or ideals can be a healthy motivator for self-improvement. Cultivating an inner judge or self-image is important to ensure that the standards set for oneself are realistic and attainable. Shame as a passion is seen as a result of misplacing value on external factors, while positive shame is about maintaining self-respect and striving to become the best version of oneself.
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