

Episode 4: Mark McKinney & Steve Fedorko on “My Client Is the Devil:” How to Stop Complaining and Get a Better Perspective"
There’s never a shortage of people complaining about their clients.
You can get stuck in that kind of thinking, but there is another way of looking at things. It all comes down to the way you think about yourself and your client. After all, you can’t do a great job taking care of clients until you’ve taken care of yourself.
Today’s guests are Mark McKinney, VP of Client Development at Bottle Rocket Studios and Steve Fedorko, both authors of the book My Client Is the Devil (And Other Myths). They’re both psychologists who happened to work in marketing agencies, so they put their expertise together. They left academia to learn and teach how much psychology is used in business everywhere.
There are a lot of books on helping clients, but not a lot on how you help yourself get better at helping clients. This is one of them.
Previous guests include: Eric Shaver, Managing Partner at Kensei Partners, Harry Spaight, Founder of the Selling with Dignity, Jeroen Corthout, Co-Founder at Salesfare
Check out our three most downloaded episodes:
- Episode 189: 5 Things CRM Software Should Help You Do w/ Jeroen Corthout
- Episode 299: How to Break the Used Car Salesperson Stereotype with Harry Spaight
- Episode 301: From Tech Sales to Business Conversation with Eric Shaver
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