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The Gaslighting & Conversation Expert: This Is A Sign You’ll Divorce in 10 Years!

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Dec 22, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Jefferson Fisher, a board-certified trial lawyer and communication expert, shares insights on navigating gaslighting and narcissism. He reveals the quickest way to identify a narcissist and the power dynamics in conversations. Fisher provides courtroom strategies that command respect, emphasizing the importance of emotional discipline and authentic communication. He also tackles the emotional triggers that can arise in relationships, advocating for validation and clear boundaries as tools for healthier interactions.
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Invest In Communication As Currency

  • Invest in your communication skills because missed conversations are like unpaid receipts you carry for years.
  • Speak with control: slow down, lower volume, and be the anchor so people follow you.
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Anchor Conversations By Slowing Down

  • Match your rhythm and slow your speech to pull others into your frequency and create comfort.
  • Become the conversational anchor by speaking less and listening more to increase credibility.
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Owning The Room Before Trial

  • Jefferson Fisher prepares trial rooms by physically pacing and touching the space to "own" it before jurors arrive.
  • That ritual creates an "I've been here before" presence that calms jurors and increases credibility.
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