Today we dissect our testing experience of the new Saucony Freedom 4, which is the first non-plated shoe to sport their PWRUN PB midsole that was found in the Endorphin Pro and Speed. We also dive into how Saucony managed to stabilize such a bouncy and softer foam. We also take a lot of time to compare to the Kinvara 12, it's older and more traditional cousin. Both great options -- just depends what you are looking for. Take a listen for all the details!