One Decision Ex-Spy Chief’s Take on US Signal Group Chat
Mar 27, 2025
Jon Finer, former U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor, shares his insights on the unintended leak of classified information through a group chat by Trump cabinet members. He discusses the critical need for secure communication channels in sensitive environments. Finer also highlights his experiences during Russia's invasion of Ukraine, detailing U.S. strategies for peace negotiations. He expresses cautious optimism about the situation in Gaza and reflects on the importance of credibility within the intelligence community.
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
Ruffini's Secure Communication
- Christina Ruffini wouldn't text sensitive information, even on Signal.
- She'd signal her boss to call about the thing instead.
Goldberg's Initial Reaction
- Jeffrey Goldberg, The Atlantic's editor, initially thought the Signal messages were fake.
- He suspected someone was trying to damage his credibility.
Secure Communication Advice
- Secure discussions require secure environments.
- Use Faraday pouches for phones, and avoid unsecured apps like Signal.