Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald

AUKUS Investigated 04: The 51st US state?

Dec 20, 2024
Sam Roggeveen, an expert on international security from the Lowy Institute and critic of AUKUS, fears Australia's sovereignty is at stake. Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull shares insights on dealing with U.S. expectations during his tenure. Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles argues for the strategic benefits of AUKUS. They discuss the potential risks of over-reliance on U.S. military operations and the financial implications of contributing nuclear submarines to regional defense, alongside Australia's need for a more independent security strategy.
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INSIGHT

Increased Risk from AUKUS

  • The US will conduct combat missions from Australian soil for the first time since WWII, increasing risk.
  • Australia must consider the increased risk and if the security benefits outweigh it, questions Sam Roggeveen.
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Distance as a Strategic Asset

  • Distance is Australia's greatest strategic asset, argues Sam Roggeveen.
  • Projecting military force against Australia is difficult due to this distance.
ANECDOTE

One-Sided Deal

  • Malcolm Turnbull recounts the AUKUS submarine deal, highlighting its benefits for the US.
  • Australia sends $3 billion to support the American submarine industrial base with no guarantee of receiving submarines.
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