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Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald

AUKUS Investigated 04: The 51st US state?

Dec 20, 2024
Sam Roggeveen, an expert on international security from the Lowy Institute and critic of AUKUS, fears Australia's sovereignty is at stake. Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull shares insights on dealing with U.S. expectations during his tenure. Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles argues for the strategic benefits of AUKUS. They discuss the potential risks of over-reliance on U.S. military operations and the financial implications of contributing nuclear submarines to regional defense, alongside Australia's need for a more independent security strategy.
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  • Paul Keating critiques the AUKUS deal, warning that dependence on the U.S. undermines Australia's sovereignty and strategic autonomy.
  • Concerns about financial implications highlight potential costs for Australia in the AUKUS agreement with limited guaranteed military returns from the U.S.

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Critique of AUKUS by Paul Keating

Former Prime Minister Paul Keating has been a prominent critic of the AUKUS deal, questioning Australia's reliance on the United States for defense capabilities. He argues that Australia can adequately defend itself without being overly dependent on the U.S., suggesting that such a dependence could compromise national sovereignty. Keating's critique raises significant questions about the strategic value of AUKUS, particularly whether the perceived benefits justify the risks associated with becoming entangled in U.S.-led conflicts that may not align with Australia's vital national interests. His comments prompt a broader discussion about the implications of the defense partnership and whether it truly serves Australia's best interests.

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