Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Israel-Iran war: on life in Iran with Beni Sabti

Jun 17, 2025
Beni Sabti, an Iran expert at the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies and a native of Iran, joins the discussion. They explore life under the Iranian regime, revealing the daily struggles of ordinary citizens facing oppression. Beni shares insights on the prospects for regime change and highlights the role of social media in voicing dissent. The conversation also uncovers evolving perceptions between Israelis and Iranians, driven by personal stories and historical context, while sharing nostalgic memories that paint a complex yet hopeful picture of Iran's future.
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ANECDOTE

Personal Conflict on Iran-Israel War

  • Benni Sabti describes his mixed feelings as an Iranian Jew seeing Iran bombed by Israel.
  • He recalls childhood memories in Tehran yet condemns the oppressive regime's impact on minorities and Iran's global behavior.
INSIGHT

Change Depends on Iranian People

  • Israel's strikes on IRGC generals destabilize Iran but don't end the regime.
  • True change depends on Iranian people uniting behind new leaders, possibly with external support.
INSIGHT

Iranian People's Silent Suffering

  • Iranian social media comments reveal deep public suffering beyond economics.
  • People feel "Zulm," a crushing oppression without cause, questioning the revolution's outcome.
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