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Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

S15 E60: Andrey Sabelnikov & Pavel Nikienkov on Zano & Privacy

Oct 16, 2024
02:31:54
Andrey Sabelnikov has a history with the CryptoNote protocol, and even worked under pseudonymous Monero grandfather Nicholas von Saberhagen. Recently, he built Zano with Pavel Nikienkov. It's a protocol for issuing tokens with good privacy. Time Stamps: Introducing Andrey & Pavel (00:00:54) What is Zano? (00:02:46) Hybrid Consensus Mechanism (00:04:50) Challenges of Proof of Stake (00:07:15) Security Aspects of Consensus (00:10:27) Cost of Attacks on Consensus (00:13:13) Nation-State Threats (00:15:09) Open Source Development (00:18:00) User Control and System Integrity (00:20:07) User Interface (21:24) Decentralization in Zano (21:51) Mobile Application Concerns (22:30) Integration with Cake Wallet & Bitcoin.com (23:13) Sideshift & Starkware (24:31) Introduction to Zano (25:59) Zano's Technology Overview (26:40) History with Monero (27:40) Collaboration with Monero Developers (29:51) Background in Bitcoin? (31:44) Nicholas von Saberhagen's Role in Monero & Zano (32:55) Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Satoshi (35:19) Support from Nicholas von Saberhagen (36:02) Addressing Community Drama (38:28) Defending Developers Against Conspiracy Theories (40:24) The Negative Narrative Around Privacy (00:42:10) Infighting in the Privacy Field (00:43:06) Polarization Among Blockchain Projects (00:43:51) Criticism of Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake (00:44:34) Historical Innovations in Privacy Projects (00:45:51) Community Dynamics in Crypto Projects (00:47:41) Privacy as a Niche Market (00:49:34) Tribalism in Wallet Choices (00:50:16) Misconceptions About Monero's Origins (00:51:13) Support and Community in Early Crypto (00:55:14) Comparing Zano and Monero (00:59:38) Zano Token Issuance and Privacy (01:02:45) Monero's Privacy Advantages (01:03:14) Future of Zano's Privacy (01:04:48) Appreciation of Honesty (01:05:29) Liquidity and Usability (01:06:18) Building Private Stablecoins (01:07:50) Consensus Mechanism Comparison (01:08:39) Debating Consensus Models (01:09:45) Market Influence of Discussion (01:11:51) Privacy of Issued Assets (01:12:30) Zano Wallet Experiment (01:14:51) Batch Transactions Limitations (01:15:36) Technological Limitations Explained (01:19:18) Decentralization and Project Economics (01:20:34) Discussion on Monero Fees (01:23:06) Zano's Emission Strategy (01:23:30) Clarifying Staking Misconceptions (01:24:35) Challenges of Scaling Zano (01:27:28) Transaction Speed and Validation (01:30:25) Future Plans for Fee Market (01:33:59) Discussion on Zano's Fees (01:35:35) Audience Questions on Tax and Premium (01:36:41) Whitelist Functionality in Zano Wallet (01:38:44) Confidential Layer Project (01:40:31) Adoption of Full Chain Membership Proof (01:42:13) Zano's Domain Name Feature (01:44:24) Zano's Core Features (01:44:59) Comparison to Ethereum Name Service (01:45:32) Origins of Namecoin (01:46:20) Skepticism About Bitcoin (01:47:17) Namecoin Functionality (01:49:20) Decentralization Trends (01:50:32) Zano Fee Burn Rate (01:51:08) End Goals of Zano (01:51:44) Privacy Misconceptions (01:52:31) Transparency in Ethereum (01:54:03) Bitcoin Privacy Concerns (01:55:03) Criminal Definitions and Taxation (01:56:30) Living in 2017? (01:58:17) Bitcoin Maximalism vs. Alternative Projects (01:59:21) Current State of Bitcoin Privacy & Fungibility (02:02:00) Future of Zano (02:06:10) Competing with Monero (02:08:10) Industry Influence on Zano (02:09:40) Tokenization and Practical Applications (02:10:18) Competition from Tari (02:12:52) Recognition Despite Size (02:20:06) Legal Risks for Privacy Developers (02:21:06) Community Support and Development (02:18:54)Final Thoughts on Zano (02:23:12) Use Cases for Zano (02:25:15) Market Value of Privacy (02:26:16) Following Zano's Work (02:26:35) Twitter and Engagement Challenges (02:28:05) Sending Bitcoin Takeover Zano Tokens (02:28:47) Mobile Wallet Features (02:29:35) Caution with Impersonators (02:30:07) Closing Remarks (02:31:06)

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