E68: What You Can Learn from Springsteen's Career for Your Role in Higher Ed Part 2

In this episode, co-hosts Andy Hibel and Kelly Cherwin continue a conversation with Warren Zanes, music adjunct faculty at Steinhardt School of Culture, Education, and Human Development at New York University.

Zanes is the author of "Deliver Me from Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska," which is now being made into a biographical film about singer, songwriter, and guitarist Bruce Springsteen.

In this second part of the interview, Zanes discusses his left turn in life that led him to a career in academia, following his time in Warner Bros. Recording act The Del Fuegos. He also talks about the importance of vulnerability in the classroom, letting things break down before rebuilding, and how his sons have embraced higher education. 

Read more about his book in an op-ed, "What We Can Learn From Bruce Springsteen's Great Left Turn," he penned for The New York Times in May 2023.

Zanes has a doctoral degree in visual and cultural studies from The University of Rochester. He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a Grammy-nominated documentary producer. 

Hibel is a co-founder of HigherEdJobs and serves as its chief operating officer. Cherwin is the director of editorial strategy at HigherEdJobs. 

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