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On with Kara Swisher

Mark Esper on Gaza, Iran, China and (of course) Trump

Dec 11, 2023
Former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper discusses hot wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, a cold war with China, the threat posed by Iran, and the potential resurgence of Donald Trump. The podcast also explores the transformation of a former cabinet member who now criticizes Trump, and the challenges faced by President Biden in balancing values with the realities of working with different countries.
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Mark Esper

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  • The threats and dangers we face include hot wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, a cold war with China, the threat posed by Iran, and the potential dangers of Donald Trump's resurgence.
  • Former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has become an antagonist to the Trump administration, vocalizing his criticisms and warning against the dangers of Trump's presidency.

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