Transformative Leadership Conversations with Winnie da Silva

BONUS EPISODE: Coaching Using Immunity to Change with Dr. Deborah Helsing

Jun 28, 2024

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Anthony Cheong

Guest

Deborah Helsing

Join Dr. Deborah Helsing, an expert in the Immunity to Change model, and Anthony Cheong, a seasoned people leader, as they dive into a transformative coaching session. They explore how hidden assumptions can undermine leadership effectiveness and discuss the crucial role of clarity in communication. Anthony shares his struggles with senior executives and learns the importance of balancing curiosity with the pressure to fix problems. Their conversation emphasizes authenticity and actionable experiments to enhance relationships and responsibilities in the workplace.

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ADVICE

Shift From Fixing To Curious Questions

Test small changes in conversations by shifting from venting to questions that ask about the other person's responsibility.
Use curiosity to explore possibilities rather than immediately fixing or absorbing the problem.

INSIGHT

Behavior Change Meets Psychological Immune Systems

Change efforts often fail because a competing commitment to self-protection activates automatically.
Surface those competing commitments to see whether they are reasonable or false alarms.

ANECDOTE

Recognizing Enabling Patterns In Conversations

Anthony noticed he sometimes gives people long empathic listening or sets strict time limits to vent.
He realized both patterns can enable a victim mentality and undermine effectiveness.

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Today’s episode is a special one. You’ve heard all the talk about the Immunity to Change model, and you’re about to see it in action. Returning guest, Deb Helsing, coaches another returning guest, Anthony Cheong, using the model. You'll learn how to navigate challenging conversations with senior executives, explore hidden assumptions that may be hindering your effectiveness, and gain insights on clarifying and aligning your role in leadership interactions.

Immunity to Change Model: The Immunity to Change model is used to guide coaching sessions and explore hidden assumptions and competing commitments that may hinder personal growth and change.
Role Clarity in Leadership: Understanding and gaining clarity on one's role in relationships, especially in leadership positions, is crucial for effective communication and interaction with others.
Curiosity vs. Fixing: Embracing curiosity and exploring possibilities in a safe environment can lead to more effective problem-solving and decision-making, rather than feeling stressed and pressured to fix issues.
Authenticity in Leadership: Being authentic and true to oneself while adapting and improving behaviors can lead to more genuine and productive interactions with others.
Testing Assumptions: Testing assumptions about oneself and others in various scenarios can help uncover hidden beliefs and behaviors that may be hindering personal and professional growth.
Safety vs. Stress: Balancing the need for safety and protection with the desire to explore new possibilities and take risks is essential for personal development and growth.
Leadership Evolution: Reflecting on the evolving nature of leadership in a fast-paced and complex world can lead to redefining leadership roles and practices to stay ahead of challenges and uncertainties.
Organizational Innovation: Fostering innovation within organizations through human-centered, low-hierarchy environments and strategic thinking can lead to successful adaptation to change and future challenges.

Resources

Dr. Deborah Helsing | Minds at Work website

Book: Immunity to Change

Book: An Everyone Culture: Becoming a Deliberately Developmental Organization

The Change Course – an asynchronous Immunity to Change course

Anthony Cheong on LinkedIn

Winnie da Silva on LinkedIn