What's the Future of Theological Education? In this episode, Rev. Ulysses Allen, the Director of Recruitment and Retention at Phillips Seminary joins the show to talk about the challenges faced by seminarians, including student loan debt and limited job opportunities. Despite these challenges, Allen highlights the importance of seminary education in providing a foundation for engaging with difficult texts, understanding oneself better, and  preparing people to walk with people during their toughest life moments. Allen also talks about the various non-traditional programs and endeavors at his seminary in order to meet the changing needs of non-traditional students.

Rev. Ulysses Allen is the Director of Recruitment and Retention and Candidate for the Doctor of Ministry in Homiletics at  Phillips Theological Seminary in Tulsa, OK. He truly enjoys helping prospective students map out their journey in theological education in the Christian Tradition. His short term goal is to complete his Doctor of Ministry which has an emphasis in Homiletics by the spring of 2025. His long term goal is to continue my pursuit in higher education as a Director, start a non-profit organization geared towards athletic chaplaincy, and become a senior pastor of a church. My philosophical mantra is it's better to serve than be served. Ulysses serves on multiple non-profits boards and at his church.

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