Kamla Kapur, an award-winning author, poet, and playwright, shares her insights on the transformative powers of life experiences. She discusses how suffering can become a powerful teacher, leading to personal growth and resilience. Drawing on Rumi's teachings, she emphasizes the importance of inner awareness, vulnerability, and the role of storytelling in overcoming adversity. Kamla also explores the significance of gratitude and acceptance, especially in the context of aging, showing how these elements can lead to a more fulfilling life.
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Rumi's Transformation
Rumi, a 13th-century Persian poet, lived an ordinary life until meeting Shams.
Shams's death caused Rumi deep pain, transforming him and inspiring his famous works.
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Expansion vs. Contraction
We must shift from contraction (ego, fear) to expansion (openness, connection).
Suffering, like a broken heart, can crack us open, fostering vulnerability and connection.
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Suffering's Potential
All suffering has the potential to awaken us and lead to positive change.
Remembering this during difficult times is key, though not always easy.
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This book is a sweet, comforting, and at times fiery guide to nourishing the spirit. It retells Rumi's stories in a hopeful and pragmatic tone, teaching readers to trust in themselves and the universe, and to find strength in life's struggles. Through twelve powerful tales, Kamla K. Kapur brings Rumi's insights to life, highlighting the universal human experiences that connect us across time and cultures.
Kamla Kapur is an award winning author, poet and playwright. She was born and raised in India and studied in the United States. Kamla now divides her time between living in the remote Indian Himalayas and in San Diego, California with her husband. She holds a Master’s Degree in Literature from Kent State University in Ohio and she studied Creative Writing at the University of Iowa. Kamla was on the faculty of Grossmont College in San Diego for 18 years and her stories, poems, and plays have been published in many prestigious Indian and American journals. In this episode, she and Eric use her new book, Rumi: Tales of the Spirit: A Journey to Healing the Heart, as a jumping off point to discuss the transformative powers we experience through various life experiences.
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In This Interview, Kamla Kapur and I discuss Transformative Powers in Life and…
The deep wound to Rumi’s heart that transformed him and brought forth his treasured body of work that we now know and love
How suffering can be our greatest tutor and guide in life
The idea of expansion and contraction in our lives
That when your heart breaks, it breaks open
How suffering can open us up to being more aware and connected to our higher selves
That those who transform as a result of their suffering are open to a different way of thinking as a result of the difficult things that happen to them
The transformative powers of hope, joy, and love
Rumi’s stories of characters embracing suffering
How all suffering has the power to awaken us
The transformative power of suffering
The transformative power of acceptance
How Rumi says, “When the candle of your youth dims, you have to light the candle of the spirit.”
Actively ascending to our aging
The awe and wonder of existence and the mystery of life that we as humans can perceive
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