80k After Hours Highlights: #218 – Hugh White on why Trump is abandoning US hegemony – and that’s probably good
Jul 22, 2025
Hugh White, Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at the Australian National University, dives into the complexities of U.S. foreign policy as Donald Trump shakes up traditional views on American hegemony. He argues that Trump's actions reveal an already diminished U.S. influence, especially regarding China's rise. The discussion highlights the misleading comfort of U.S. military might, the necessity for Europe to step up against Russia, and the honest but harsh reality of Taiwan's defense. White posits that a multipolar world, fraught with challenges, is still preferable to the threat of nuclear war.
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US Talk vs Action on China
- America has talked about pushing back against China's rise but has done very little in action, especially militarily.
- US political leaders avoid telling Americans about the real war risks needed to maintain dominance in East Asia.
Trump Reflects US Public Sentiment
- Trump's America First policy aligns with growing American public sentiment against burden of global leadership.
- Most Americans are fine with reducing US commitments abroad even if elites disagree.
China's Underestimated Rise
- Westerners have consistently underestimated China's rapid technological and economic rise.
- China is on track to become the most powerful and technologically advanced country globally.