The discussion centers around Swarm's uncertain future following Mirantis' involvement. The hosts explore whether Swarm could still be part of Docker Engine. Portainer’s insights shed light on the tool’s sustainability amid a Kubernetes surge. They also highlight the community's role and support for Swarm users facing these challenges. With the rising concerns, the conversation raises important questions about transitioning away from Swarm and what that means for developers.
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Bret's Swarm Journey
Bret Fisher has been a longtime fan of Docker Swarm and created multiple courses still selling today.
After Docker sold its enterprise business to Mirantis in 2019, Mirantis took over Swarm support and customers.
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Swarm Maintenance Mode
Mirantis hired engineers to maintain Swarm with small fixes and minor features annually.
Docker maintained Swarm in Docker Engine primarily by security fixes and library updates without new functionality.
insights INSIGHT
Portainer Signals Swarm Decline
Portainer signals that Swarm's future is limited with Mirantis focusing on Kubernetes in MKE4.
Mirantis will continue Swarm support on MKE3 but the clock is ticking for Swarm users.
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I've been a big fan of Swarm since it was launched over a decade ago and I've made multiple courses on it that still sell. But, we recently got some news out of Mirantis that might be bad news. So I talked about it last week on my live stream.
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