
Mind Shift with Erwin & Aaron McManus #105 Spiritual Leadership: The Architecture Of Vision
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Oct 24, 2025 In this engaging conversation, guest Eric Johnson, a seasoned pastor and church planter, shares insights from his journey at Bethel and Studio Church. He dives into the dynamics of vision and leadership, discussing the importance of timing in church transitions. Eric highlights the emotional challenges leaders face and the need for resilience amid backlash. The duo also explores the balance between innovation and tradition, the integration of AI in church operations, and the significance of community-based decisions in cultivating strong church cultures.
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Arena: Leadership + Scripture Fusion
- The Arena pastors' space blends leadership, scripture, and ministry-focused training to sharpen organizational intelligence.
- Erwin frames ministry as mobilization to impact the world rather than escape from it.
From Bethel Senior Pastor To Church Planter
- Eric Johnson described growing up in multi-generational pastoral heritage and serving nearly two decades at Bethel.
- He then resigned, entered a season of uncertainty, and planted Studio Church in Greenville.
Vision Runs Faster Than People
- Vision typically outruns people, requiring leaders to become patient builders who reverse-engineer progress.
- At Studio the context is pliable 'wet clay,' enabling faster change but still demanding infrastructure.



