
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast #376: An Honest Look At The Systems That Shape The Church In America with Phillip Joubert

One of my goals with this podcast is not simply to talk about the spiritual but also the systemic. One could argue that the two are actually intertwined. Can Christian spirituality thrive in the midst of a toxic system? Is it possible to be formed opposite the ways of Jesus while using the name of Jesus? These are important questions to wrestle with and hold up to cultural Christianity today. We must talk about the cultural systems we are shaped by. That’s not divisive or an attack of the enemy. The truth always shines a light. And the truth will always lead us to greater unity, even if some systems we’ve held dear need to come down.
Part of being a faithful follower of Jesus in the world is paying attention to what is of God and what is not. And that’s why I wanted to have a conversation with my friend Phillip Joubert. Phillip is an artist with Common Hymnal, one of my favorite Christian artist collectives out there right now. They are making music that is a refreshing counterpoint to popular Christian music today. It’s Jesus AND justice. It’s praise AND protest. It’s worship music that is rooted in the goodness of God but with a grip on the reality of our world. Phillip is a truth teller. A prophet, you might say. The voice of someone who spots trends and speaks with moral clarity and biblical conviction.
Topics Covered:
- Why praise and protest are needed in our spiritual formation
- Why worship culture tends to be tone deaf
- Why we need to decolonize our theology of success
- A different alternative to an industry of worship
- The importance of understanding whiteness as a culture
- Why America needs to be seen as a religion
- Thoughts on Bad Bunny and rival Super Bowl halftime shows
- What we can learn from the Maverick City controversy
Resources Mentioned:
- Show Sponsor: Planning Center
- Phillip Joubert
- Common Hymmal
Show Sponsor:

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