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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 84: When This Lousy War Is Over

Mar 19, 2025
Michael Vorenberg, an associate professor of history at Brown University and author of "Lincoln's Peace," dives into the nuances of the Civil War's conclusion. He explores the complexities of defining when a war truly ends and the evolving nature of war goals. Vorenberg discusses Lincoln's assassination and its significant impact on Reconstruction, as well as connections between the Civil War and the American West. They tackle modern warfare challenges and the 'forever war' concept, emphasizing the need for nuanced historical narratives that resonate today.
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Quick takeaways

  • The conclusion of the Civil War involved a complex series of events rather than a single decisive moment, revealing ambiguity in war endings.
  • The assassination of Abraham Lincoln significantly complicated post-war peace efforts, illustrating the profound influence of leadership changes on conflict resolution.

Deep dives

The Ambiguous End of the Civil War

The end of the American Civil War occurs through a series of events rather than a single moment, challenging the traditional notion that the war concluded with Lee's surrender at Appomattox. Many armies still remained, including that of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, who continued to assert that the Confederacy was not defeated. The podcast highlights that understanding the war's conclusion involves recognizing various interpretations, whether it be the last battle fought, the final surrender, or official declarations by governing bodies. This ambiguity prompts a broader consideration of how other wars might similarly lack a clear endpoint, urging an examination of the political, military, and societal ramifications of such conclusions.

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