Americano: has Putin played Trump?

In this engaging discussion, Jacob Heilbrunn, Editor of the National Interest, delves into whether Vladimir Putin has successfully manipulated Donald Trump. They analyze the shifting dynamics of Trump's second potential presidency and his relationship with authoritarian regimes. The conversation also covers NATO's effectiveness against Russian aggression and the implications for European defense strategies. Heilbrunn underscores the importance of Ukraine's sovereignty and explores the geopolitical ramifications of the ongoing conflict.