**This episode was originally released on June 3, 2022. Given Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent comments about a "national divorce," it seems appropriate to revisit the history around this subject (with this week's episode), and the legality and likelihood of that happening in the future (next week's episode).

This episode is the first of two (one today and one next week) focusing on secession – the separation of a state or region from another.

This week, I'm talking to Dr. Susan Schulten, a professor, author, and historian at the University of Denver. She is an expert on the Civil War and the precipitating events, including the secession of eleven southern states from the Union. While the conversation is historical, we also discuss the political climate in the United States today, as well as parallels that might exist between then and the now. I want to know if we should be concerned and Dr. Schulten reminds me of the fluid nature of history and events.

Mentioned:
Scopes Trial
Camping Grounds: Public Nature in American Life from the Civil War to the Occupy Movement – Phoebe S.K. Young 

Recommended:
A History of America in 100 Maps – Susan Schulten 

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