Kevin Kelly, Senior Maverick at Wired Magazine and New York Times bestselling author is often called the most interesting man in the world.

In his conversation with Carey, he lives up to that title as he talks about the usefulness of increasing your optimism, what he learned from time travel, and why the myth of progress isn't a myth. Kevin also shares an updated version of his famous 1,000 True Fans argument and talks about the power of remaining astonished.

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