Today, we’re sharing a conversation that we recorded with Dan Wotherspoon for his podcast, Latter-day Faith. Dan is a very talented interviewer and drew out perhaps the tenderest conversation we've had yet. He asked how our faith has transformed as romantic disappointments and the slow slipping away of time have made our lives look different than what we expected. We talk about courage — facing our own lives without flinching. We talk about perspective—appreciating the abundance of life and avoiding catastrophic thinking. We talk about worthiness — how we’ve grappled with fears that we’ve done something wrong. We talk letting go of “why” questions, and focusing on “how” questions — how do we live? .What is the next step to take? What is expedient for today? We talk about embarrassment — how embarrassing it is that relationship status features so highly in how we evaluate ourselves, how embarrassing it is to have others speculate about your life, and how embarrassing it is to belong to a religion that outsiders rarely see the magic of. We finish off talking directly about this— why we’ve both stayed in the Church, though it has a role to play in fueling dreams that haven’t come to pass, and sometimes struggles to walk with us in the life that remains. We can’t wait to hear what resonates with you!

ANNOUNCEMENT: Mallory and Diana will be doing a live event with Adam Miller on Thursday, February 6th, at 5pm MT/7pm ET. The event will be on zoom, and anyone is welcome to join! We’ll be discussing boredom in relationships, and how the fear of being bored impacts romantic decision-making. Tickets can be purchased here.

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