Wil interviews Kyle Fincham, a movement and personal growth enthusiast. They discuss embracing weirdness, infinite play, creativity, beginning and endings, and the impact of AI on creativity. Kyle shares his journey from owning a gym to a more exploratory movement approach, influenced by his experience as a stand-up comic. They also touch on the importance of patience, surprise, and the decision to end Kyle's podcast 'Behind the Movement'.
Deep listening and openness to surprise cultivate creativity.
Being seen, heard, and listened to creates meaningful experiences.
Art and stories capture subjective elements, tap into emotions, and connect people.
Deep dives
The Source of Creativity
Creativity is found in the practice of deep listening and being open to surprise.
Meaning and Relationships
Meaning is found in the deep connection, communication, and understanding between individuals. Meaningful experiences arise from being seen, heard, and listened to.
The Role of Art and Stories
Art and stories play a crucial role in capturing and expressing the mysterious and subjective elements of life. They provide a way to tap into emotions, explore the undefined, and connect with others.
Embracing Endings and Embracing the Unknown
Embracing the process of endings rather than focusing solely on outcomes enables a more creative and authentic experience. It involves accepting the unknown and being open to the surprises and changes that come with each ending.
The Importance of Embracing Improvisation
The podcast episode explores the concept of living and building towards an unknown ending, emphasizing the significance of improvisation in both teaching and personal practice. The speaker discusses the need to let go of judgment and the construct of constant improvement, allowing for a more inclusive and less competitive approach to creative endeavors. The conversation delves into the idea that everyone can embrace their own creativity, and encourages teachers and facilitators to provide opportunities for individuals to figure things out and explore their own creative potential.
Behind the Movement Podcast and Reflections on Ending
The speaker reflects on their podcast, Behind the Movement, which has been running for three years. They describe their initial motivation for starting the podcast, which was to connect with people from different movement cultures and learn through their stories. The podcast has had a profound impact on the speaker's teaching and personal growth. However, they are now considering ending the podcast to focus on other endeavors and to avoid pursuing it for the sake of recognition or outcomes. The conversation ends on a reflective note, emphasizing the value of surprise, creativity, and the importance of giving oneself permission to be creative.
This conversation between Wil and Kyle Fincham, discussed their experiences with movement, play and personal growth. They explored the concept of 'weirdness' and how it influences their lives and practices. Kyle shared his journey from owning a gym to embracing a more dynamic and exploratory approach to movement, sharing his experiences as a stand-up comic and how it influenced his approach to teaching and facilitating. He emphasized the importance of creating a space for others to share and be seen, rather than being the center of attention. He also discussed the concept of 'infinite play' and how it allows for exploration beyond defined boundaries. The conversation revolved around the concept of creativity, its importance, and how it is influenced by subjective experiences and stories. We discussed the potential impact of AI on creativity and the importance of maintaining human creativity. We also explored the concept of beginnings and endings in the context of improvisation and life, the importance of patience in listening, and the role of surprise in life. Kyle shared his experiences with his podcast 'Behind the Movement' and his decision to end it.
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