SPENCER MATTHEWS: OUR FIRST HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR FRIENDSHIP

Sep 23, 2025

In a heartfelt conversation, Spencer Matthews, entrepreneur and former reality-TV star, opens up about the complexities of friendship and personal struggles. He shares the impact of losing his brother at a young age and how it shaped his emotional landscape. The duo discusses misunderstandings around weddings and social obligations, their awkward moments on 'Made In Chelsea', and the depths of Spencer's battle with alcoholism. As they navigate reconciliation, they reflect on the importance of communication, self-care, and the bond that remains.

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INSIGHT

Small Slights Compound Quickly

Long friendships can fray from small misunderstandings that compound over time.
Jamie and Spencer show minor slights plus poor communication can create prolonged distance.

ANECDOTE

Wedding Omission Explained

Jamie explains he omitted Spencer from his English wedding to reduce stress because Sophie was anxious.
He regrets being selfish and not communicating the decision to Spencer.

INSIGHT

Perception And Press Escalate Rift

Both men saw the other's behaviour through different personal lenses, which deepened the rift.
Media narratives amplified the misunderstanding into public stories about a feud.

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Spencer Matthews is a very old friend of mine - we grew up together sharing some pretty embarrassing moments on television, making a name for ourselves as podcasters interviewing (and winding up) some of Hollywood’s finest, in our podcast, ‘6 Degrees’.

However, in the last few years, our friendship has begun to wane, and it’s a question I’m asked all the time: "Have you and Spencer fallen out?". To tell the truth, I've never really known the answer to this… We’ve hardly seen each other for a number of reasons, and so when he reached out about this recording, I thought it’s time to get to the bottom of this, because friendships are important and worth fighting for.

We cover:

Why he wasn’t invited to my London wedding
Where he was during my ultramarathons
Wild stories of our time on Made In Chelsea
Spencer shares the lowest points of his alcoholism
How the grief of losing his brother as a child, has impacted his capacity for emotions

This podcast was created for connection in a world of disconnection, and this episode is quite raw for me. Like many men, I’m not always the greatest communicator, and I think Spencer would say the same for himself, so having this opportunity to sit down together, and lay it all out on the table was really special.

And I've got a new book coming out, Boys Don't Cry which you can pre-order here: boysdontcry.co.uk

I also sat down with Spencer on his podcast, Untapped, which, if you loved this, you can check out too: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/untapped/id1788474884

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THE CREDITS

Exec Producer: Jemima Rathbone

Producer: Helen Burke

Assistant Producer: Rhoda Abrokwa

Video: Jake Ji & Josh Bennett

Audio: Rafi Amsili

Social Media: Laura Coughlan & Anthony Barter

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