The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 776 | Small Church Dysfunction: David Ashcraft Talks about Growth at LCBC, Succession and Growing the Global Leadership Summit

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Dec 30, 2025
David Ashcraft, a longtime senior pastor who transformed LCBC into a multi-site congregation of 22,000, chats about the challenges of small church dysfunction. He shares insights on scaling a congregation, including adopting a multi-site model and the importance of a clear vision. David also discusses succession planning for leadership transitions, emphasizing transparency and emotional preparation. As he takes on leadership with the Global Leadership Network, he reflects on the value of live events and the importance of authenticity in fundraising.
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ANECDOTE

Early Small-Church Turmoil

  • David Ashcraft recounted early small-church fights like a chairman dramatically throwing keys on the table and leaving.
  • A parishioner named Abe stuffed critical notes in mailboxes weekly and became a long-term nemesis during LCBC's first six years.
ADVICE

Choose A Direction, Not Blended Compromise

  • Pick a clear direction rather than trying to please everyone.
  • Use the 90-10 rule: aim for 90% wildly enthusiastic and accept 10% who will be upset.
ANECDOTE

Building For Mission, Not Comfort

  • Growth forced LCBC to add services and later build a new auditorium; asking for money preceded a 50% attendance jump.
  • Framing building needs as for unchurched friends, not insiders, unlocked generosity and rapid growth.
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