Kylie on Inevitable Minivan Future, Online Clapbacks & Body Neutrality with Drew Afualo | Ep. 4
Jan 2, 2025
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Drew Afualo, a viral content creator and bestselling author, joins Kylie for a candid chat about navigating social media. They share their experiences with online trolls and the art of clapbacks, offering insights on humor and resilience. Drew discusses her journey to being recognized by Forbes’ 30 Under 30, while Kylie reveals her quirky thoughts on parenting and the inevitable minivan. The duo dives into body positivity, reflecting on how they've transformed their views on body image and self-acceptance, especially after facing bullying.
Kylie humorously embraces the practicalities of impending motherhood, highlighting the inevitability of acquiring a minivan for family needs.
Drew Afualo emphasizes the importance of body neutrality and self-acceptance, advocating for resilience against negative online comments and societal perceptions.
Deep dives
Life Changes and Humor in Pregnancy
The speaker humorously shares the challenges of navigating pregnancy, including sleep disturbances and the fatigue that comes with it. They express a light-hearted struggle with the bodily changes, emphasizing their current stage of readying for a fourth child. The humorous tone sets the stage for relatable content, reminding listeners that even during personal tumult, laughter can provide comfort. The speaker encourages audiences to take their comments with a grain of salt due to their present exhaustion.
2025 Trends: Ins and Outs
A list of trends for the upcoming year is shared, marking what’s in and out for 2025. Key trends include the embrace of minivans for practicality's sake, a continued love for Shirley Temples, and the celebration of women's sports, which highlights a growing support for female athletes. Moreover, there’s an emphasis on avoiding non-zippered baby clothes for newborns, framing this decision in the context of personal experience as a mother. The speaker conveys that these preferences reflect both practicality and personal taste for the new year.
The Power of Self-Image and Body Positivity
The discussion focuses on the importance of body positivity and self-acceptance, highlighting personal experiences and challenges faced in relation to body image. There’s a mention of navigating the comment sections of social media and the impact these interactions can have on self-worth. The speaker emphasizes the need to reject negative perceptions society may impose, advocating for a more neutral understanding of bodies and acceptance of one's unique identity. They assert that body image should not define someone’s value, promoting a healthy self-concept among listeners.
Navigating Criticism and Empowerment
Amid lively banter, there’s an exploration of how to handle online criticism, particularly the comments that many content creators face. The speaker reflects on the absurdity of some negative comments while emphasizing the importance of crafting thoughtful comebacks to maintain a positive online space. They convey that self-assurance can be derived from an empowered response to detractors, suggesting that when confronted with negativity, taking ownership of one's narrative is crucial. The conversation inspires listeners to prioritize self-worth and resilience in the face of judgement.
Kylie’s back for her fourth episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Dunkin’ and “shockingly” isn’t a New Year’s resolutions person so instead, she’s starting off this episode and the year 2025 with her official list of “Ins & Outs” (1:46).
Kylie gets honest about the inevitability of a Kelce family minivan once baby number four arrives, her go-to drink at a bar and the one makeup item she’s stayed true to since 2007. She then declares what’s out in 2025, highlighting the worst types of baby clothes and the Dallas Cowboys postseason (7:22).
Then, Drew Afualo, viral content creator, hit podcast host and New York Times bestselling author, joins Kylie to talk about her beginnings on TikTok and being named to Forbes’ 30 Under 30 list (13:19).
Kylie and Drew then delve into their mutual love-hate relationship with social media comment sections (19:56). Since Drew made a name for herself by creating viral “clapback” video responses to rude commenters, Kylie has Drew “Coach Her Up” in a new segment (23:35).
Drew then bonds with Kylie over their shared experiences being bullied growing up for being tall (33:56). Drew explains how she’s since changed her thinking about body image and how she now views words like “fat” and “big” (39:05).
As Kylie mentions, these episodes are capped at 45 minutes so you can find even more exclusive, never-before-seen clips from her conversation with Drew Afualo on YouTube on Monday. Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss a thing!
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