Wealth advisor Adam Katz discusses Die With Zero, using leverage, return on hassle, and the myth of 'The Number.' They explore the intersection of money, ambition, drive, entrepreneurship, and therapy, the concept of dying with zero and maximizing living wealth, the 'FU number' for quitting a high-paying job, the misconception of earning 5% interest, and the challenges of managing staff for wealthy individuals.
Individuals should aim to spend their wealth and enjoy life when they are younger, challenging the traditional belief of accumulating wealth for future generations.
There is no specific monetary 'number' for retirement, and individuals should focus on the lifestyle they want to lead and prioritize satisfaction and balance in their lives.
Being comfortable with leaving money on the table can stem from a place of scarcity and individuals should prioritize overall well-being and happiness over constantly striving for maximum optimization.
Deep dives
The concept of dying with zero
The podcast discusses the concept of dying with zero, which suggests that individuals should aim to spend their wealth and enjoy life when they are younger, rather than leaving a large inheritance. This idea challenges the traditional belief of accumulating wealth to pass it down to future generations. The podcast explores the balance between enjoying one's wealth and leaving a financial legacy.
The fallacy of a single 'number' to retire
The podcast challenges the idea of a specific monetary 'number' that individuals need to retire comfortably. It emphasizes that there is no one-size-fits-all answer and that people should focus on the lifestyle they want to lead and the time they have with loved ones, rather than fixating on a specific financial goal. It encourages individuals to create satisfaction and balance in their lives, rather than constantly striving for maximum optimization.
The importance of leaving money on the table
The podcast highlights the value of being comfortable with leaving money on the table in different situations. It suggests that the urge to optimize and maximize every opportunity can stem from a place of scarcity and a lack of trust in oneself. It encourages individuals to consider the real value and utility of the money they might be sacrificing, and to prioritize their overall well-being and happiness over constantly striving for the last dollar.
The importance of understanding lifestyle and long-term living
Understanding the concept of lifestyle and long-term living is crucial. Many people underestimate the time it takes to accumulate enough wealth to support a comfortable lifestyle in retirement. However, by truly comprehending the potential years of healthy and active living ahead, individuals can better plan for their future. It is important to have a realistic understanding of how much wealth is needed to sustain a desired quality of life in the later years.
The benefits of leverage and managing hassle
Leverage can be a valuable tool when used strategically. By borrowing against collateralized assets at low interest rates, individuals can invest in opportunities that can generate higher returns than the cost of borrowing. It is important to manage loan-to-value ratios to avoid excessive risk. Additionally, managing complexity and hassle is crucial for maintaining simplicity and peace of mind in wealth management. Having fewer liquid investments can help reduce the temptation to constantly check portfolio values and engage in day-to-day market fluctuations.
As your earnings go up, your ability to enjoy money should increase as well. And you should worry less. Yet somehow, high-earners still struggle to do both. Adam Katz is a wealth advisor at Corient. Khe and his wealth manager discuss Die With Zero, using leverage, return on hassle and the myth of “The Number.”
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Disclosure: Adam is Khe’s advisor and this podcast does not contain investment advice.