Moving the Needle on SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Fence-Sitters with Jordan Harbinger

Jordan Harbinger is a recovering Wall Street lawyer, turned podcaster. He’s actually been podcasting for longer than we’ve had smart phones. So why would I be asking him about vaccines? I’m not. We’ll get to that. His previous podcast and company focused on dating, but he realized that the skills that they were teaching regarding that specific social interaction actually applied to other aspects of life and so he pivoted his podcast and now his podcast really applies to anyone interested in personal development.

His expertise focuses more on entrepreneurship, networking and social engineer and that last one is the reason he’s on the show today. The decision to vaccinate may seem straightforward to some, but if you are considering all of the knowns, unknowns and unknowables, as many vaccine-hesitant patients tend to do, it can be inordinately complicated. As physicians, it should be our job to lighten the cognitive load of that decision and he is going to help us make sure we optimize any interaction with our families, friends, patients and communities.

His main point is that for many who are hesitant about the vaccine, they may just want to avoid making the decision. It is easier to sit on the fence, so we need to clarify that by not getting the vaccine, they aren’t deferring the decision, but deciding to not get the vaccine. We also need to press upon them that given that scarcity of the vaccine, but deferring now, it is unclear when they’ll have access again.

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